VLSI Event July12-2021

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Held on July 12, 2021 @ 7 PM

Ask me Anything:
VLSI Programme
By IISc and TalentSprint

Prof. Chetan Singh Thakur

The new VLSI Chip Design Programme is the 4th programme by TalentSprint in partnership with IISc. Programme Faculty, Prof. Chetan Singh Thakur and Prof. Kuruvilla Varghese discuss in-depth the curriculum designed for effective learning. Watch without fail as this video covers everything you might want to know about the VLSI industry and the programme that will prepare you for the same. Take a look.

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Ask Me Anything - VLSI Webinar

Hello, people. This is Harsha from talentsprint. So I would like to start the webinar, I think everyone is able to see my screen. Today 12 July 7pm. We are organizing this asked me anything webinar wherein we wanted candidates to, you know, ask when you support the program. And you know, that opportunity will be provided by the end of the session. And I'm Harsha here, the program advisor at NSC talentsprint for PG level advanced certification program in vlsr chip design that's offered by Indian Institute of Science. So I'm really happy to see that, you know, we have 15 candidates, but even expecting more to join because of you do this technical glitch, but Okay, so on the video, someone is actually managing to join, because this Monday is the busiest day of the week, the starting day of the week, I understand. So, and some time, I'm going to give you the plans, what exactly the next 40 minutes is going to be for us. And before that, I would request everyone to join me in welcoming the professor chasing target and Professor pumila bogeys So, both the professor's welcome to the webinar. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here. And so, initially, like, you know, I would go ahead with actually discussing about the agenda we have today.

So, initially, they can be discussing about some topics and the trends in the industry, what was the impact of COVID on the semiconductor industry, and what kind of I know, scope we have in semiconductor industry in India. So, and the trends tense about the semiconductor industry in India. So, then later I would, I would ask the faculty Professor chitchatting, takodana, Professor kuruvilla to explain about the programming team. So, as of you know, many, many of them are actually asking about, you know, what is the electro digital we have digital IC design as one of the module and analog a series of the the second module for the program. So, what in detail will be covered, everyone is eager to know about that, and we have the faculty is going to discuss about that. So, going ahead, first thing, there are chips everywhere. So, I think most of most, most of you, people will actually agree with this point, because we know, today, we are very happy because of having no smartphones, which are really compact, which have the compact designs, and you know, the kinds of the size, they're in a very easy to use, fast processing and everything, it's all because of ISIS, and, you know, the 21st century is all done with the chips, chips at the base, every device we're using today, so that, that, I know, that's where I would like to start the webinar here. And going ahead, the impact of COVID and what industry leaders say. So here, I think, and I'm presenting on the screen for you. This is analysis, some kind of survey from KPMG quoted from KPMG surveys, so 50% of them actually say that digital transformation is accelerated by a month or by months or years, you do the COVID-19. So of course, you know, that's, I can say, COVID-19. Of course, it's not the goodbye to everyone, but in terms of the advancement in the technology, it has been, you know, accelerated by cancer years for now, 50% of the surveyors say, and 63% have increased the use of cloud and cloud automation, of course, you know, this is going to increase the usage of ICS in a more complex ICS, which has to be designed and fabricated. And, you know, we have growth products and this says that wireless 5g, IoT and automotive the most important applications driving the revenue over the next year. So these are the most important applications, what we're going to have and 72% believe that 5g specifically will be this significant driver of revenue growth in within the two years. So that's what they you know, we have the analysis from KPMG and so, faculty, Professor chayton and goodwill Do we have anything to say on this?

Now, I think once again, I think it says a good diamond semiconductor industry is always booming right, because more and more digitization and more and more automations and new technologies are coming right. So you always need electronic data are right and then miniaturization is always the need right because of our performance and efficiency, right? An area requirement. So I think it will, it will be key Doing no doubt about it. Yes, promises?

Yeah, I want to say is that he has said, you know, before the COVID, you know, I never thought we will have a class, you know, the online class or a lot of meetings. So all that is happening. So these are definitely this has a, you know, indirect effect on the semiconductor industry in terms of chips and all that. So, I think it is, it's quite good. And I can also see from our students, not everybody is working, you know, working more, more than yushan through this code period. So, it is it indicates good thing.

Yesterday, and, you know, this actually says that we have a huge scope for all those who know, who's actually from different domains also, who wanted to make their career in the LSI because of the district transformation that allows the integration of different technologies here. So, moving ahead, so, this, I would like to present the revenue share by various industries and consumption of semiconductors by 22. So, so here, it actually shows that data processing electronics are actually at the maximum, you know, they take the maximum share, which are which is at 34.2% age, and followed by we have communication electronics, which is 30.2%. And we have consumer electronics, at 9.3, then automotive, electronics, 2%, industrial products, 13, to one. So, these are all the statistics. But the very important thing, what I would like to put on here is like when we have this, you know, all these kinds of industries require chip, that's what in the my first slide says that the chips are everywhere. So every technology, like, you know, every one requires a chip that, you know, there is a huge lack of the scale of workers here. So it's a great, you know, I can say, this is a great field of learning, you know, this will be this will be great a great experience, if in case you know, we learn how to design an IC and that for that you will learn lots and lots of passion. And going forward, I think, some faculty is going to tell us how a program is going to be for six months, because the program duration of six months, how it is going to be like how can we have the curriculum and everything that will be told by the faculty in some time. So and the next thing, what I can tell you, so here, what, so we be listening, that automotive industry has actually a lot of a lot of requirement of semiconductor devices. So when we are able to, like some of us are actually able to experience this thing, like, so we've been no negative getting the vacant lot of vehicle. If we order it, it's taking time out to get those vehicles delivered for us. So it's all because of the shortage of the chips we have right now. And so, I would like to tell you what our components are connected to the car. So we have for me, that's all about the ice then you know, the other divisions which we have these those are advanced autonomous vehicle systems, wireless communications, infotainment systems, because so these are all different things, you know, which vehicles are getting imbibed with the current age. And there is more and more advancements in autonomous driving, there are a lot lots and lots of things, which we will discuss in the for the thing. So Professor chayton, and kuruvilla. Do you want to say anything about this particular area?

Yeah, so also, I think a lot of people might be knowing that there's a big surge in chips because of the AI and machine learning application, right. And one of the area is autonomous vehicle nowadays, right? And everywhere you need this heavy data processing the right so more and more chips are going into into car, which is I mean, than the previous one, right? So because of this autonomous, autonomous. You want to make it. So yeah. So I think it will be much more compelling. Whatever you're showing here. You I think you're not showing more about the AI part of it. But I think that would be coming nowadays. Yeah.

Yeah. So we are going to have that covered in the next slides process. Oh, sure. Okay. We're gonna head down. So I would like to discuss about the coming trends what we have. So that increases the semiconductor usage in the automotive industry. So here, I think you're able to see the new trends like electrification, automation, digital connectivity, advanced security, so most of the autonomous vehicles which are able to see right now, and being released in the recent times, they're almost like, you know, everyone, so when we talk about the electrification So, this is all about like, you know, electric vehicles being coming into the limelight then. So, that means your electric electrification This makes. So, this is more it's according to the regulations actually like you know the low co2 emission emissions and everything. So, which will allow us to have more and more semiconductor devices being planted or implanted in their in the engine system and everything that automation process however, every one of us know, automation This requires future processing power and everything that also require future semiconductor devices or digital connectivity is one thing again, advanced security. So, so, this particular slide is actually going to say that anything to say on this professor So, because better than me, I think you will be able to correct it, well, whatever I'm trying to show you,

yeah, just you know, just adding you know, 15 years back, you know, when the Waggoner or somebody, some vehicle came, it was written on the car outside 16 bit microprocessor, you know, so, I used to make fun, you know, what, who cares, whether it is 16, but now, if you look at the person or after 15 years, just probably the instrument display cluster display need a processor, okay. So, the number of processors in a car is is is quite very high in a lot even earlier, it was a case of luxury cars, but now, the process you know, if you say the you know, security features are everything, everything has dedicated processors and plus all other chips, I think it is going to be a very important area. Yes.

So, moving ahead, I would like to talk about the opportunities what we have, and you know, which kind of other domains will be able to actually have good, you know, usage of semiconductors. And so, as we are hearing, I think everyone is actually hearing about the 5g technology IoT. So, these are the most important applications, which we already discussed in the previous slide. So, this is the most important application that's going to take the semiconductor revenue over the next year. And despite the assumptions of COVID decline, like you know, we generally have the logistic issues and everything, then, you know, the automatic obligations, you know, which we are just discussing, that's going to stand in the third place of you know, that's going to be the important tracker of the semiconductor revenue over the next year again and again, these are the sensors men, you know, microelectronic mechanic mechanical systems. So, there is a huge advancement happening in every corner, but what I can say so, and this actually shows the 2020, Outlook and 2020 outlook compact compact between themselves. So, there is a huge difference between the numbers and the kind of odd with what we have in each and every domain, they like sensors, memes, then analog RF, mixed signal, microprocessors, Opto, electronic, electronics, memory, other logic, so, these are not citing universities, these are pretty self understandable actually. So, these are rated at five, so sensor and micro electronic mechanical system. So, due to this district, Mr transformation, I think there will be a huge usage of all the sensors and micro mechanical systems. So, we have 3.8 being rated out of a scale of five. So, then, moving ahead, one very important thing. So, we discussed about the 5g technology and the usage of semiconductor devices there 53% of people believe that in next two years, the major the you know, the significant driver of the semiconductor industry revenue growth will be the 5g technology and the other technologies related to that, and the top issues which currently the industry is facing is like, you know, we have the major thing what I would look at is like you have the talent or a skill of 30% there are not enough skilled workers. So that that's all thing you know, what we generally been discussing there, I can tell you, there is a huge scope and huge, huge like Only thing is like we have to get skilled and moving into the industry and we are waiting ourselves there. So there is a huge scope, this analytics actually shows us and this is going to be the industry plan for next three years. Like you'll also be able to see executing on the growth initiatives that said 68 percentage, that actually means that every company every other kind of industry itself is actually looking into the research and development ideas and you know, go into more and more innovation there. And talent development management is at 53%. And the other things you know, are followed by so this is to just make you understand what are the strategic priorities over the next three years. During this pandemic, though, in between the pandemic, so that's what the KPMG global semiconductor industry survey will actually tell us. And one very important thing everyone would be eager to know, what is the scope of semiconductor industry in India. So, it's been a discussion from ages actually. So recently, I've been going through the journal where you have seen a flat fabulous design. So fabulous. You know, generally designing companies, there are many startups who are taking initiatives actually, in building their companies, you know, without having the application you will, no fabrication can actually be done by different third party or something like that, but the focus is like, so here, the fabulous design is about actually being you know, more than shapes are taking towards this and we have chinnaswamy, who is like, you know, he's the head of semi semiconductor, fabulous accelerated lab Bengaluru, he is tech stated that we can build our own innovative designs, that means, you know, we have a lot a lot of capability in our country professionals, so it's all about getting skill in this particular area and innovating in that area, as I as I was telling you, so, Professor, I would like to ask you something to add to this particular area. Yes. Productivity gonna go

here one thing you know, that this fabricating an IC in India, probably is not economical, really viable, because we need to cater to a very large market. So, like, software industry boom, we had, if you want that in hardware, the only way we can do is it by this fabulous, you know, IP design, which we can do successfully with fabricating outside. So this is something in the immediate future we can and there's a lot of scope you know, as a as a startup, even small players can play from the big two, it can accommodate all kinds of you know, William, and the granularity of design. Yes,

yeah. So, in chip design process, the fabrication is is more is more or less automatic, right? This is completely based on automation, right, and only a few players are there like tsmc Global foundries, IBM right there not many players, it's all consolidate to this big players who has invested a lot of money to build the fabrication facilities, right? For across different technology and process note. But nowadays, I mean, even Qualcomm is fabulous, right? It's so such a big company, and even excellence, Schumann's Intel, they some of the products, even some of the chips, what the bill is with their own fab, but most of the chips is completely outsource, right? Because, as I said, tsmc is a big hub, most of the chips are built over there. So we don't need to have a fabrication as such for to have complete tools, I mean, from end to end product, right. So it is not needed anymore. It was there in the past in 70s, or 80s. And that time, it was like a monopoly. Only big companies can afford it. But now it's not the case. And as as harsh was pointed out, and even now this lot of in India, there are a lot of support for startups. And that's what this two fabulous initiative we started about is Pepsi at IIT Hyderabad is incubation initiative. And another is this semiconductor fabulous accelerator lab. So, our focus is always on design, right? Because there's so things are just automated, you don't have to do anything, right. The the whole machinery would do that for you, once you submit the design, once you submit the final GTS or layout, your chip will come in one month or two months. And that's it. So the main focus are always on design and that's what this program is all about design, how you can design a chip from idea to to a layout.

Yes, thank you. So, like, you know, my agenda objective was like, you know, to let people know what kind of outcomes you know the design learning in design area will be there. So, there is a huge huge scope, you know, that's what I would like to put out over my presentation here.

so here also for example, in all the companies right in Bangalore, we call a Silicon Valley of India right? loosely. So all these companies are design companies. They're not fabrication companies, right? There's no fabrication, private fabrication facility as such in India except there is one from but that is government owned, right and It is a world for particular technology, it's not for any technology can't build over there.

Yeah. Yes, thanks for some excellent moving head. So, this is the role of AI chips. So, I will justify what it from the Deloitte analysis. So, based upon the applications being used like the we have a ton of like you know everyone is focusing at autonomous driving like let's say Tesla we have like now being implemented on the roads right now, and robotics, Business Intelligence smart factory. So, these are the at the level of application then if in case we'll look into the technology being implemented, there, we have machine learning deep learning that you know, there are a lot of technology being implemented, but finally at the formal level, so, the chips are the major players selected based upon the processing speed and you know, the kind of technology being used to design them and fabricate them. So, we in general, you know, come across these kind of shapes like we have CPU than you know, GPUs are like no more GPUs are generally like our is being used for you know, processing the data at a bigger you know, huge data processing centers, that FPGA, which is field programmable gate arrays, then e6, application specific integrated circuits you know, based upon the requirement which we haven't, you know, the requirement the state because every district transformation technology nowadays, you know, we are very happy if in case they are We get the output or else you know, we get our work done easier and faster. So, that, you know, more and more now, you know, faster ISIS are required nowadays, I think, you know, everyone had had heard about the IBM innovation into no supercomputer which works fast 45% faster than the current computer speed. So, these are innovations and the role of AI chips will however be there as the district automation is going to be part of our life going forward. Then going ahead, so I would like to ask Professor chayton and Professor kuruvilla to take over in explaining you explaining the entire design process and at the program model explanation Professor ODU professor

said this is only for digital IC design this this flow is mainly for digital IC design, but in this program we'll be covering FPGA plus analog as well. So don't confuse that is the complete ICT then and it's not generalized for everything. So generally, you start with some system specification let's say you want to build for example, example you want to build a traffic light controller right for example, you want to build a chip for traffic light controller right? And so, you will come up with a system a specification, what is the time delay between two different lights between red and green? how it would be right so all you define here, let's see five seconds or whatever the numbers right and then you come up with the microarchitecture design right microarchitecture means at the FSM level finite state machines and how you will come up with the with the microarchitecture how much memory it would be and how how the data path and control paths would be read in your overall design. So that all would come at the architectural level. then based on that you write in write those architecture into HDL levels, right? HDL it could be VHDL or Verilog, hardware description language, and then you map your ideas into this language, right, you can choose anything doesn't matter. But in this course, we'll be teaching very long because it's in the industry, most of the people use the lock so we'll just use that VHDL was the was the initially it was it was using but now people have moved to the log industry more or less. And then you move to the issue of circular APR more synthesis of your your design and then you will go to the physical design where you do the floor planning partitioning macros, putting macros and routing, clock tree synthesis and till the GDS have which means the final layout right and then you will do the physical verification to make sure there's no short and it's your final layout is meeting with the specifications or with your logic design to make sure both are same and then it will it went out to the fabrication. So this so we'll be covering three physical verification in AI in digital flow and then it will send out so in company whenever they are building chips, so they just send it out to fabrication facility late could be third party and most of the guarantees third party. So then your chip will go out and you get the chip back and probably you some time it packaging also you can outsource and so you get the packet chip and then you have to do the testing of that. So here I think testing means in digital it is more like a test pattern which you have to give from from external and then you have to test the whole chip. It's all automated and then once the chip comes then you do your own testing at your lab or at FERC. So this is a typical design flow in digital IC, not in analog and not in FPGA FPGA is all automated from logic design. And in analog, it's more like a system specification and you you can assume as a schematic design, and then you do the layout, because all custom there in digital is all automated. And that's what you are able to scale your design to a large number of gates or you can make a very big design in digital. And that's the advantage in both analog and digital. So both are good in their own way. Yeah, based on the application,

quarter professor, so I, you know, I have actually tried to put an opportunity here because so at least understanding single schema, how digital IC design works. So it's generally I think, you know, nomenclature can be used as a design process. So then further. So I wanted you to explain about the module wise in what what will be the learning outcomes from each and every module and the project? What kind of projects will candidates be doing here? So sure,

so in this in this project, in this module, so there are four module in this module, digital IC design, we'll be starting with basic introduction to real estate design, we'll we'll start with basic introduction, some history, and then we'll start with the MOSFET. And we'll also introduce the tools, different cadence tools that we'll be using the cadence designs who here, so we'll be using all the cadence tool from RTL design, to simulations to synthesis and then flow planning routing. So we'll be using the design toolkit and design tool here. And then we'll go into detail about MOSFET MOSFET characteristics as a pass transistor CMOS inverter characteristics, we'll do simulations on that noise margin, transient response, inverter characteristics, all will we'll do that here with lab components, of course. And then we'll also start parallely, the bail off, which is the HDL language, which is which is what needed in industry. So will will will teach Verilog as well in the lab sessions, and then we'll talk about the delay in CMOS process. So how do you optimize for best delay in your design, so we'll take a small circuit and do that design that based on the delay estimations or different delay models. And then we'll also explain you at the smallest and XL level, about the transistor sizing for rise and fall time and delay estimation using logical efforts, how you can design a fast circuit using logical efforts. And then we'll also have a project in this course, we'll be trying to connect to the to the AI. So we'll be pruning projects in neural networks. So I'll be teaching probably few lecture on neural network briefly. And then we'll have a project on that. So that you can build, you can design a microarchitecture whatever will provide the project and then you go from the complete flow from designing microarchitecture to writing very lock code to synthesize it and then finally show the layout layout or GDS, what do you call it? And then we'll also cover some layout fundamentals, which is needed for custom layout which would be useful again in analog right, and then we'll talk about the power dissipations because in in real aside is power performance in area is most important. So power is the is the crucial thing these days right, because everyone is talking about IoT is edge computing. So power is the key thing these days much more important than the performance nowadays. So how you can what are the techniques to reduce the power? What are the power dissipation in CMOS forces. And we'll talk about sequential design like flip flop design body how you can design is near flip flop. And then most important thing is the timing, which is set up in whole time clock skew jitter. Right. And then we have some industry lectures as well on verification methodology. It won't be that exhaustive because of the time constraint because we have only for six months, right? So we can't cover everything. Maybe in future we can have maybe for a longer time. We don't know yet. But currently our focus is on mainly on design because that's the key thing right? So we'll but to complete we'll all be we'll be having some industry folks coming for verification methodology, which is commonly used in industry. And also similar we'll be having some industry lectures on DFT design for tests which is also important component of your digital IC design flow. And then we'll also cover a set design flow right this is a classic design flow here which will again what I explained earlier, you will go from synthesis to the layout, right so that's the flow in digital is more like a flow you need to know what are the what are the scripts what are the parameter you need to set The proper optimal design. Right? And so this would be in digital IC design. Yeah. Yeah. So then I'm moving to the second model. Professor. Yeah.

Yeah. So, you know, always the design will be, again, this is a parallel thread, all this is not happening in sequential, right? So it's all mixed right model is to, it won't be like model one finished and model two would start right. So it would be one week would be properly on model one and the second week probably in model two or maybe few weeks on model one and few weeks in model two like that, right? Because for example, device physics of the MOSFET right, it's same important for digital IC design as well right? So it will start before So here we'll start with the basic fundamental physics of the MOSFET right what is the phenomenon what how MOSFET right right so bandgap diagram or right and, and some of the origin of the bandgap semiconductors, metals and, and charge transport mechanisms. So we'll cover in one or two lectures about the device physics because those are the foundation you need to know for both IC design Okay. And then you will move to more on the design side like amplifiers, biasing circuits and differential amplifier, single ended outputs and and then also some of the concept for body plots frequency response, those are important for frequency response of the amplifier. And then you will be having one lecture on noise analysis and then we'll go more detail on the feedback because feedback is the most important part of analog design. And then you have as I said, it would be then frequency response. And then you have one one lectures on bandgap, references, switch capacitor circuits, and then few fundamentals on ADC, ADC basics, we can't cover everything right. But time is limited by otherwise each section itself is in itself is a is a course right? But we want to give a overview with the fundamentals. So you can go and you can start your own things later if you're interested you can go deeper. Yeah. Then the third model, which is emerging technologies, so model threes is all is somehow connected with all the other three model for example, neuromorphic computing, is a broad field, it starts in the device level. Also, you can do it the digital level, also you can do analog, it's more like an application, right? So neuromorphic computing, basically brain inspired computing, right? So neural network is is is you can say loosely connected to that, it's not exactly same. But we if if time permits, we'll do neuromorphic company in one lecture. Otherwise, we'll merge neuromorphic computing and edge computing together based on the time constraint. And then you have this flexible electronics. And I think you will visit the lab when you visit to the ISC how you can print the electronics on your hand or something like that right. So, you can put on any any substrate and then one was on risk five, which is which is which will be taught by Professor kV along with FPGA course, right. So, it is more like immerse in another three modules extension of all these three modules right? Because he had there won't be much lab because it would be few lectures in the evening just to give a context how to be useful. Yeah,

what a professor and the final module which is advanced digital design and FPGA based design. So, Professor kV, do

you Yeah, very closely. So, this is basically about the front end design and FPGA, you know, targeting FPGA. So here, I will be basically given a spec, how to design the data path, how to design the controller, how to meet the timing, and how to increase the throughput, like pipelining, and things like that. And there is an important in timing, there's an important part called synchronization that we taught on the FPGA will be taught to fit the architecture how these circuit mapping to FPGA and I will close with the processor design because there's a big huge subject and there'll be some six to seven labs or whatever I deal with in the in the pass will be followed up with a lab and there is a project where you design a small IP sometime maybe prasetyo. Me will share the same thing so that you can do the front end design in my course. And go ahead and design the basic part in in Jetsons mode. Okay,

so, like, you know, some of them like you know, I've been interacting with lottery professionals, they've been asking how much of this particular program is going to consider the practical exposure. So to Understanding as we are going to provide the kit that's going to contain the design tools and hardware required. So I think this program is going to ensure a lot a lot of practical exposure that is required by the industry like no industry relevant curriculum and learning. Prophecy.

Exactly. So we whatever we taught will be, will be, you know, tried in the lab. Okay, as exercise only thing is that we usually don't, in our code, spend a lot of time on the tool itself, you know, like, you know, we're not going to show you all features of the tool, which which students have to introduce a tool, but then somebody has read a bit and you know, pick up the tools. Because for us lab means doing the design and implementing it testing it. Yeah, these are in our on our job, then me and our group all our from Department of electronics system engineering, all our courses are to each one. So there will be in your lab, very strong lab conduct. Yeah,

we'll is it as designed cannot be things without lab, right. So otherwise, yeah. So it's not possible. So each module would be having significant lab component, even if not let come lepo it would be assignments, or at least the tool, understanding the tool because you need to know how to run the tool, right? So at least five, six lab or even might be more. Yeah, so lab would be significant component here. And each module would be having a project right is not like one grand project, each module would be having one project for digital. So a lot of work would be there. Because we have limited time and is so you need to work really hard if you want to get skilled in this area.

Yes, professor. And going ahead, like, you know, I would like to ask something about the career outcomes, because not many professions have the question. So one, supposing this program, let's say someone's from a major industry, they wanted to pursue the program to enter into BLS, someone isn't in the industry, and they wanted to apply for different roles they wanted to get into, let's say, they working for digital IC design, they wanted to move into maybe physical design they have into the front end part. So I would like to discuss you upon the career outcomes from the program. Professor.

So if you're a skilled in real estate design, there will be lot of jobs. And you I mean, you can check in your friend circles or anywhere, right? You don't need to believe on us. Because this is very niche area, right? You don't get this expertise or knowledge over online, right? Because the main thing is the tools are so expensive. It's not available online, right? That's one of the biggest reason. Another thing is also we don't have in, in colleges, right? They're not proper Gila sec curriculum because of various reasons. And also, because of the tools is one of the thing and unless you have a tool, you can't do that. So it's very different from any other program. Because nowadays, if you want to be an expert, you can go a lot of online things around you can do that. If you want to be a blockchain expert, you can go online, you can do that. If you want to be skilled in Cz Plaza, you can do that your own right. If you're an expert, even you can do online courses, which is available probably on real estate events is hard to get it and you will not find it. Because you need to you burn your hand on tools and understand how to design and and you need to have fundamentals here. Right. So that's what our focus on fundamentals, that's what we are starting from device physics. Yeah. Right. So, so don't worry, I mean, you can list out here all the possible carrier outcomes, but it's up to you which direction you want to build, we'll touch upon on every aspect, right? So we'll be we'll be talking about teaching about analog, we'll be teaching about some concept of layout, we'll be teaching about verification, we'll be teaching about front end, we'll be teaching about physical design, there will be small lecture on DFP from industry experts. So you can go in any direction is completely up to you will will just give you the seed and now it's up to you how you want to grow that underscores.

So then I know, this is the end of the I think, you know, Professor, both the professors actually together gave a lot of information about the program and how this program is going to be for next six months, you know, once the program starts, and the possible career outcomes from the program, and I strongly believe the kind of scope you know, initially we started discussing about the scope in the industry and the kind of, you know, the it's all about, like getting skill here and moving, moving moving in there. So I strongly believe that and now, Professor, you know, I'm here with some of the questions from the candidates. So most of them, they've started putting their questions. So I just wanted I understand, you know, we got delayed by 20 minutes to start the webinar, our sincere apologies for that once again. But you know, I wanted you to actually, you know, clarify this Skype for these queries from the candidates processor? The first one, which we have, like, you know, so I think we've answered the first first question, you know, they were asking about what topics and projects will be covered here. And how is this course scheduled? I think a DDL schedule, it is not yet ready for the program, but is a type processor.

It is ready and whatever I spelled out most of the things would be there.

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. And the How was the evaluation that will be done for each and every module in the process?

That I think still need to find out. But it I mean, you just need to focus on the on the knowledge, right? This these are not that important at this point of time? I would say?

No, we already have so all the lab carries mark.

Yeah, we have that. But I don't think it's in public domain right now, right or we can we can give give it to them.

Yeah. So, we will have more for lab then the project then there will be an exam final exam. So the marks will be distributed. And some modules may have some questions. So mostly looks like my module may not have a quiz because maybe, but maybe a small percentage of marks for that.

Yeah. So there would be assignments and labs and then projects in each module. And based on that the number would be we don't know exact percentage, but yeah. Are you on this?

Yeah. So then So one of the questions from the candidate like they ask every session like two Saturdays Sundays will like each Saturday and Sunday they will be having lab sessions or else one day the concept then the lab how exactly it is going to be Professor sews prosecutor Do you want to go ahead or

Yes, on Saturdays we allow the lecture and if there's an overflow, we will go to the Sunday, but Sunday is mainly for the assignments and lab and lab we will introduce and Ts will be there you can do the lab and most labs we need some extra effort from yours it may not you may not be able to do that in the problem itself may not be very looks very simple. But if you want to properly design, it might be time to understand it properly. And it's very important that you understand the concept and apply. So you will have to work sometime the tools are will be made available online, all the tools will be there online. And you will get some boards, FPGA boards also. So you can work whenever you have time. Some extra hours during the week.

It's got a professor so like I'm actually looking into some other some other questions as well. So what will be the projects covered in analog circuit design? Will we build any ADC DSU I think this is covered by law professor was covering about the analog IC design one yeah.

So I don't think they will go in ADC in PLL design because this itself is a is a very narrow domain, but they will be covering open and how to design a payment feedback circuit. So but they will be covering ADCs and PLL basics. Yeah. Switch cap circuits and yeah, there's also a question Will the lectures be taken by professors? So I think I need to answer that because he has all the lectures would be taken by all the professors and the labs and assignment would be the other supporting work would be would be done by ta but all the lectures would be done by professors.

Yes, got it, okay. So, these are the questions that we have and so, other people are actually asking about no the guarantee after this program will be having any guarantee. So they were asking but I would like to answer that. So one was actually very much interested in doing a program with lots of passion. So like Indian Institute of Science, a faculty from Ministry of Science, they're actually known for the quality of education the kind of people because this kind of curriculum, it would require lots and lots of efforts from the faculty and also like in the know, you know, giving out the because the entire curriculum and give practical exposure which has to be provided. So 100% like one is was going to concentrate on the program and going to learn get the skill from here definitely will have a fruitful career. So is this a certification program except for foreign government agencies is one of the question so this certification is a it's a professional certification program can be acceptable because the entire curriculum is designed by the faculty, you know, with whom we are actually speaking right now. So it's an industry relevant curriculum and most of the faculty from Indian Institute of Science, they are in Continuous, I know I mean to say in collaborations with the top companies actually they are into part of the research and development happening for different companies. So, they actually know what exactly the industry is requiring right now. So that's how I can mean like this is going to be the this is the industry relevant curriculum and the other questions what we have. So, Professor like, you know, there is a question like 2009 pass out, this is from Kiran Kumar, Kumar, is, MTech, viola sigh design, the 2019 2009 password, if I will join this course, there will be any assurance for the job industry. So, that's what I was trying to put out if in case you're willing to learn that, so I am still not aware of like, you know, what is your current job role? What, what exactly you've been doing for 1011 years.

So, I would add one point here, even we don't give any job assurance to our own student at IC. That's completely up to them.

Not only that, see Professor entire world over can assure the job. So getting skilled and moving moving there, and, you know, consistently performing that potential, as well put assure, you know, our jobs generally. So, that's what I can tell. And the other question, I have completed my MTech wireless I design in the year of 2016. Yes, definitely, this course, will definitely help I know, in between from 2016, what have you been doing, that's also an important fact. And I know, if you wanted to know more about what kind of opportunities like if you are into different domain like it or is embedded, so you can definitely reach out to me, I'll definitely help you in giving the insights and the information about how this program is going to help you. And because the faculty was pretty clear on how this curriculum has been designed, and how what kind of learning outcomes we'll be having, what kind of career outcomes we're going to have, and are fascists are eligible. So for this program, like we're looking at people who have a minimum of one year experience, professional experience, and strong knowledge in vlsr industry, or else, you know, currently working in real estate industry and the audition process here, also a distorted directed vision process. First of all, we expect the candidates to apply for the program. And your application would require certain details, like your Academy background, your professional experience, details, and along with that, a strong statement of purpose as well. So all these things, the things will be reviewed by the faculty. And if in case you're looking at the fitment, towards the program, and if they feel like you're the right fit for the program, you'll be having good outcomes from the program, then you will be sent to the selection email. So then the I will be the person who will be calling you to congratulate and then I'll explain you the process on on the call like what what will be the, for the process. So is the semiconductor industry still interested in the candidate after PhD in semiconductor field, so as I was discussing in my initial part of the slides, so most of the companies, they give a major stake in r&d, because to get into the innovation, all the stuff, so PST, you might have got a lot of good amount of knowledge. By this time, it's all about getting a skill and you know, getting the practical exposure industry relevant with industry relevant curriculum. So it's definitely going to help, and lots and lots of dedication now wouldn't be required. And are there any other questions, and I'm able to see these questions. So professor, like, you know, I had like these, I have couple of questions, I think, you know, we're getting delayed, I understand. But I would like to take two to three minutes more, and we'll end with that. So, a bit the major thing, what I actually see is like, if someone is coming from different domain, you know, most of them they are if they are, they are very much interested in making career in real assignments, you looking at the scope, and the industry of learning, because most of them who come out from electronics domain, either they go into embedded communications or at some other domain, and some most of them are into it as well. So if they pursue this kind of program, and they're applying for the program, first question from there is like, you know, what is the probability of getting shortlisted for the program? So then I keep on saying that, okay, it's all about the kind of knowledge which we have gained till now in various industry based upon that framing the alleged statement of purpose that would fetch an opportunity to take part in this program. So getting outcomes like how does the industry accept these kind of applicants? I know this kind of professionals Professor prasa kV Do you wanna

suppose definitely, you know, if you have some experience in another domain for last 10 years, and if you take this up, and you can get a job, but you have, it is up to you, you have to wait because you have if you if you're good at it, you pick it up, you will get a job, but you won't get a job. You know, matching your 10 years experience that should be clear. Okay. Not you should not say I have 10 years experience in another domain. And you you learn but you will end up in in will not have that 10 years experience in other domains that advantage you may not have in this domain that you should understand. And the companies will have some policy, about the age and about the about the job profile and all that, which we can help, which I'm not, I'm not very clear about that part. Maybe that Chairman can throw some light.

Yeah, that complete depends on application to application, I mean, company to company as well. But for example, if somebody is coming from it, I'll give an example if somebody is coming for ICT coming from it, and he's very good at it, let's see c c++, right? But he doesn't have any domain knowledge right. So but he could be very good verification engineer, right? Because in software, also, they have this lot of testing and verification job, right? Similarly, here, you may need this verification methodology, which requires good, at least system very log or even see people like write models, but you need to have a domain knowledge doubt that you can't do that. So for those kind of role, it might be useful.

As professor, so I've been so similar kind of thing I tried, you know, telling to the other folks from eminent industry communication, so they are interested, they're very much interested. So only thing they were dicey on legna, whether and how this industry is going to accept, so I told you like, because every industry, every company, they're going to have the projects, you know, the ice is being designed to implement on, you know, maybe embedded purposes or some other district observation, or technology being implemented on that, anything like that. So when we have knowledge in domain knowledge, how, and you know, updating the IC design process knowledge from the program, so we can, I think we can, you know, move into the integrated role roles as well. So that's what what I feel. So I would like to correct you to correct me if in case I'm going wrong somewhere, Professor, is this the right thing? Because I understood, I heard from many people that there are integrated roles, those who have knowledge of let's say, embedded, IC design. So this kind of professions can actually help both the IC design teams and no verification or validation, testing things.

Yes, it completely depends on it's, it's, it's not you can generalize, right, as I said, it could be in production application engineer, or it could be an application engineer, right? Where you're doing silicon validation, right? Once the silicon comes, you need to test it, right? So you have to have this PCB design where you're putting your chips and you're testing all the whatever you develop in that chip, right, so all this would require that. But I don't want to generalize it right. It could be depend on the company to company and job to job it won't be this kind of job won't be in bulk. But the possibilities are there.

Yes, Professor I understand. So that's all here, professor. No, I would like to thank you so much for being here in your very informative session. No. Great thing to know about the complete, I will say the design process, and how are the modules, the projects being done, and the career outcomes from the program? Thank you, Professor chayton. Thank you, Professor kuruvilla is also a perfect getting delayed with this session. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you all the participants, I hope to thank you. Yeah, yes. Yeah. So rest of the questions like, you know, I will be taking care. So is asking actually about? Will we get to know about the fabrication to or it's not chip chip design, it's only about the chip designing on the fabrication part and what is the fabric of scope of fabrication? India, I think, you know, one of the slides from here, I think, I was mentioning that India is actually looking at the fabulous design. And so, that's where you know, now visually faculty was also making the professor was also telling us like in about the design lecture, we should more focus on the design the apart and the other things, what will be the timing of the classes and you know, as I said, we have not no finalized with that, like the DDP might be the task will be starting at 9am on Saturday and my painting at 2pm. So and same on Sunday. Okay, sure, buddy, I understand you are asking something about the course fees, I think it will get in touch with you personally in actually giving an answer for that. Then other questions. So I think we have covered so someone is actually asking about how much is Python relevant to the course. So, here one very important thing we have to look at Like, we've been discussing about the emerging technologies, where we had concepts like neuromorphic, computing, edge computing flexible electronics. So when there are certain machine learning concepts which are being covered here, so to deal with machine learning concepts, Python, Python will be helpful at any point. And down the line also, like Python is such a such a programming language which which, which will become unnecessary and a must for everyone. So, Python will definitely help at any point in time. But do we have any concession based on our statement of purpose. So cbdr, like, you know, here, it's not based upon statement of purpose, it's completely you know, upon first come first serve basis to mention you that. So how this first come first serve basis as look like looks like it's like, now, as of now, we have 35 candidates who got enrolled into the program, and we just have teensies, which are left over. So the sooner you fill the application form, I think tomorrow is the last day to get the scholarship that has been getting extended, so you can get in touch with me so that I'll explain you about the scholarship process and the amount of fee and everything. And I would like to guide you for the statement of purpose and hold to mention the, you know, your professional experience and everything. Which roles in digital design doesn't require coding skills. So however, as faculty versalink, there will be certain very long, you know, which is a hardware description, language, and other design factor coding, you know, with respect to the technology domain URL that depends, like you know, how much coding you have to get into. So, there might be certain rules where coding is not required, but I think I have to, again, that will lead me into that, and I'll let you know, I'll load on your uncle. So I will get in touch with you. And I'll actually give it gives information about that.

And any other questions from anyone? So cvpr, or should have actually asked another question, do we have offline more classes in Hyderabad? Is it certification program? I think I answered. So offline, more classes in Hyderabad are not there, this entire program, it's an online certification program. So that is the reason we are going to provide a kit to each and every candidate. This is going to contain the design tools, you know, because we're going to have the participants from different parts of India. So it will be a very difficult for everyone like to attend, you know, the offline classes. So we of course, also covers finfets. So I think, what what are the topics being covered and everything that has been uncovered by the faculty, so But still, I will check with the faculty about different facts. Like the transistor, the new I think these are the new HR transistor being used by many of the companies. So the tools being used, I think, we mentioned with Cadance Matusow Xilinx vivado, and there will be an FPGA board that gets delivered at home. So you'll be having the complete access to the design tools and hardware that is required there. Yeah. So that's all for today. Thank you so much for all of you. And first of all, I know I'm aiming to say very sorry for the inconvenience initially, you couldn't get technically couldn't get the links, but no, we ensure that it's going to it's not going to happen once again. Thank you so much. I think I've answered your question and I think everyone is able to look at, you know, my email id and my contact number. Please note it down. If in case you have any specific questions, you can please try to reach out to me, I'll try to clarify those. Okay, thank you so much, everyone.

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